Suggestions: Suunto Importer?

Note to forum managers if you're watching!! Here's a second vote for this type of data feed import...

I would add another vote for Suuntu import (T6c here)

please add suunto t6c as an option. current calendar/training plans are poor in suunto software. I'm sure this would be a popular combo

Here is another vote. I use the Sunto T6 with HRM and GPS armband for all my runs and it would be great to import the data. From a developers perspective it is possible to export the files from Sunto Training Manager in three formats that might be used for upload XML, CSV, and Sunto SDF.

Again new to the site and it nearly does everything I need T6c support would make it perfect for my needs.

Kind Regards

Nathan Fleming

 P.S. I will welcome myself to the comunity shortly so apologies for butting in without announcement.

And yet another vote for the Suunto (X10) and its mapping/navigation/GPS accessibility.  

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Just had a responce from Suunto they have forwarded my enquiry on to their software engineers.

Seems like mapmyfitness would benefit more, with possibly more premium users if such a Suunto application were on the site.  It'd be very nice to import Suunto data directly (i.e-heart rate data) so it doesn't have to be manually entered each time logging a workout.  The type of file that should be imported to mapmyfitess, and I believe to speak for most on this thread, is .SDF (Suunto Data File), which is what workout data can be exported as from Firstbeat ATHLETE and Suunto Traning Manager.

and yet aother vote. Suunto is a top tier HRM and cycling computer brand - if MMF is serious about its future it simply has to add compatibility.

What should we have to do in order to get a suunto file importer ??? Suunto is step ahead comparing others, maybe you...

Depending on the complexity involved I'll lobby for this when we look at the import engine. There is no immediate timeframe for this happening, and there's no guarantee that Suunto will be put in.

People, if you want them to work on adding Suunto import capabilities then help MMF out a bit.

I used my t3 and Training Manager Lite, which does, in fact, export to an .SDF file, to export the below data.

I don't own the GPS pod so that data is not available in my sample training run below but someone should be able to add to this by simply exporting their GPS data into an .SDF file. Open it in Notepad/Textpad and copy and paste the info in another message here.

A proper data dictionary would need to be supplied by Suunto or other enterprising user here so that we can provide an easy way for MMF to convert the data file to their own format. I've given it a shot.

============== BEGIN SAMPLE ==============

[HEADER]
FILEVERSION=1
TYPE=0
SOURCE=File
DISTANCE=4828.032
AVGSPEED=2.36101129639591
MAXSPEED=0
AVGCADENCE=0
DURATION=2044.9
MAXHR=178
MINHR=0
AVGHR=165
STARTTIME=22.09.2009 21:00.00
TOTENERGYCONSUMPTION=621
HRABOVETIME00=0
HRBELOWTIME=0
HRINTIME=2045
PERSONAL_RESTINGHR=0
PERSONAL_ACTIVITYCLASS=7.5
PEAKEPOC=89
HRLIMITHIGH=175
HRLIMITLOW=126
FEELING=3
MOD_WEIGHT=80.2272727272727
BIKEDISTANCE=0
FOOTDISTANCE=0
GPSDISTANCE=0
TRAININGEFFECT=3.1
ISTESTLOG=0
HRZONE1LIMIT=66
HRZONE2LIMIT=76
HRZONE3LIMIT=83
HRZONEABOVELIMIT=89
HRZONE0TIME=0
HRZONE1TIME=60
HRZONE2TIME=540
HRZONE3TIME=840
HRZONE4TIME=600
[POINTS]
"T3LAP",22.09.2009,14:51.0,890.6,"",890.6,0,158,0
"T3LAP",22.09.2009,24:34.5,1474.5,"",583.9,0,169,0
"T3LAP",22.09.2009,34:04.9,2044.9,"",570.4,0,173,0

============== END SAMPLE ==============

========= BEGIN DATA DICTIONARY =========

DISTANCE= total meters (converted from miles)
AVGSPEED= meters / second - calculated [total meters/total seconds]
MAXSPEED= meters / second - from foot/GPS pod   
AVGCADENCE= from foot pod
DURATION= seconds   
MAXHR= peak HR recorded during session
MINHR= lowest HR recorded during session - always seems to be 0   
AVGHR= average HR (sampled in seconds)
STARTTIME= start date [dd.mm.yyyy] and start time 21:00.00 [hh:mm.ss]
TOTENERGYCONSUMPTION= calculated energy expenditure [kcal]
HRABOVETIME= seconds HR above predefined user limits on device
HRBELOWTIME= seconds HR below predefined user limits on device   
HRINTIME= HR recorded workout time in seconds (rounded)   
PERSONAL_RESTINGHR= predefined user limits on device   
PERSONAL_ACTIVITYCLASS= x.x [integer.decimal value - see below table 1]   
PEAKEPOC= [UNKNOWN measure - seconds at peak? percentage? mL?]
HRLIMITHIGH= predefined user value on device - active HR maximum
HRLIMITLOW= predefined user value on device - active HR minimum
FEELING= subjective user feeling [integer values:1,2,3,4,5 - see table 2]
MOD_WEIGHT= converted from POUNDS (on device) to KG
BIKEDISTANCE= [requires use of bike pod]
FOOTDISTANCE= [requires use of foot pod]
GPSDISTANCE= [requires use of GPS pod]
TRAININGEFFECT= x.x [see below table 3]   
ISTESTLOG= can identify recorded info on device as TEST-ONLY
HRZONE1LIMIT= percentage (%) value - min threshold for zone 1
HRZONE2LIMIT=percentage (%) value - max threshold for zone 1 / min for zone 2
HRZONE3LIMIT=percentage (%) value - max threshold for zone 2 / min for zone 3 HRZONEABOVELIMIT=percentage (%) value - max threshold for zone 3 / min for Maximum Training Zone
HRZONE0TIME= time in seconds HR below Zone 1
HRZONE1TIME=time in seconds HR in Zone 1   
HRZONE2TIME=time in seconds HR in Zone 2
HRZONE3TIME=time in seconds HR in Zone 3
HRZONE4TIME=time in seconds HR above Zone 3 (aka, Maximum Training Zone)
[POINTS] = start of split information
"DEVICE SPLIT NAME",Date[dd.mm.yyyy],Split End Time[hh:mm.ss],Total Seconds Elapsed,"Notes added in Suunto Desktop Software",Split Elapsed Seconds,Distance[meters - requires foot/GPS pod], Split HR Avg, Avg Speed[meters/sec]

========= END DATA DICTIONARY =========

============================

[table 1] - Activity Class

Integer.decimal value

1.0 - 10.0

0 -- No regular participation in recreational sports or heavy physical activity   --   

1 -- No regular participation in recreational sports or heavy physical activity   -- Walk for pleasure, routinely use stairs, occasionally exercise sufficient to cause heavy breathing or perspiration    

2 -- Regular participation in recreation or work requiring modest physical activity, such as yard work, Nordic walking or moderate intensity running   --  10-60 minutes per week    

3 -- Regular participation in recreation or work requiring modest physical activity, such as yard work, Nordic walking or moderate intensity running   --  Over 1 hour per week    

4 -- Regular participation in heavy physical exercise, such as running, aerobic classes or high intensity running   --  Less than 30 minutes per week    

5 -- Regular participation in recreation or work requiring modest physical activity, such as yard work, Nordic walking or moderate intensity running --  30-60 minutes per week   

6 -- Regular participation in recreation or work requiring modest physical activity, such as yard work, Nordic walking or moderate intensity running --  1-3 hours per week    

7 -- Regular participation in recreation or work requiring modest physical activity, such as yard work, Nordic walking or moderate intensity running --  Over 3 hours per week   7.5 -- Endurance athlete (Club/Regional level) -- 5-7 hours per week    

8 -- Endurance athlete (Club/Regional level) -- 7-9 hours per week    

8.5 -- Endurance athlete (National level) -- 9-11 hours per week    

9 -- Endurance athlete (National level) -- 11-13 hours per week    

9.5 -- Endurance athlete (International level) -- 13-15 hours per week    

10 -- Endurance athlete (International level) -- More than 15 hours per week  

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[table 2]  - Feeling (manually entered into the Suunto Training software)

integer values:

[null] - Undefined

1:Bad

2:Could be better

3:Average

4:Good

5:Excellent

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[table 3] - Training Effect (calculated based on Activity Class v et. al.)

Integer.decimal value

1.0 - 5.0

Training: ValueEffect

1:Minor Training effect

2:Maintaining training effect

3:Improving training effect

4:Highly improving training effect

5:Overreaching

Training Effect assessment is based on your measured EPOC (Excess Post-exercise Oxygen Consumption) value during the exercise, taking into account your current fitness level and training history. Training Effect is expressed with one easy-to-understand figure from 1 to 5. The specific effect of any training session on aerobic fitness can be described by a value as above.

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Hope this helps. The ".GPX type" files from a Suunto GPS are not available to me since I don't have the GPS pod but this should be a start.

Just providing info to get things moving.

 

 

 

 

Did some more searching and found a great description of the waypoint/GPS data from a Suunto X9 (and many other Suunto devices) using a standard format:

 http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:MR1jf5_1QFsJ:www.wmin.be/sport/X9i/Suunto/Public%2520version%2520of%2520sdf%2520file%2520description.doc+.sdf+file+suunto&cd=18&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

 

 

Hi, just registering as another Suunto fan (t4c) and would love to see an Importer built. It doesn't make sense to be a paying customer of MapMyRun without it and although I see your point around commercials, bringing data into one system (MMR) is what will create massive value. I hope this gets more support as Suunto has a lot of fans. Perhaps if you add a section on registration to see what devices/brands your members use, you could have use this intelligence to market the respective importer to them and get them to upgrade - I doubt many members will be proactive enough to search through forums.