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    • CommentAuthorFree Membermalkster45
    • CommentTimeMay 29th 2008
     
    malkster45

    Hello,

    Around 7 weeks ago I started training for a 10k which is on Sunday.  I can now run 10k.  My time is slow (65 minutes) but I figured that after 7 weeks of training, that's not too bad and my goal this time around is just to finish.  My training route has been relatively flat with the odd hill.  Apparently, the race route does have some challenging hills, though, they are at the beginning of the run.  The thought of hills is making me nervous...any advice?

     Thanks.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberyeags
    • CommentTimeMay 29th 2008
     
    yeags
    First of all - Congrats for going through the training and getting yourself to run the distance!!!  The time it takes is irrelevant if your goal is to finish the race.  You can set time goals for yourself later on - just enjoy this one because you only get a first race once.
    Don't be overly concerned with the hills.  Drive the course if you can and get a look at them (better yet, run them if you can).  Find out where they are and mentally prepare yourself to run up them.  Remember that if you finish at the same place that you start that you must come back down the same amount - that may help you get up them.
    Come race day, find the back of the starting group...  no sense in getting trampled and frustrated.  Chances are high that you'll find other runners of your same ability level in the same place.  Perhaps you can pace each other.  Don't get sucked in to the faster pace of a race.  If your pace is an 11:00 min. mile, then run your race at 11:00 min. miles.  Don't concern yourself with what others are doing.  By the time you get the the 1st mile marker you'll be with other 11:00 milers.  Run with them and enjoy the run.  Who knows, maybe you'll feel great after the hills and run the rest at 10:30 (or whatever)...  Either way - enjoy the race.
    Good Luck!!!
    jy
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberburgalurg
    • CommentTimeMay 30th 2008
     
    burgalurg

    Malkster,
    Congrats on your decision to do this race!!  I'm a newbie as well and have only run one 5k before deciding to do this half marathon I'm training for.  Do let us know how you do, will yah?!  Good luck to you!!  : )  I run pretty hilly courses for my training and I just take them slow and try to focus on keeping my breathing and heart rate at around the same as I was running on flat ground.  Of course, it will be a bit higher, but in order not to waste too much energy, especially on the longer runs, I try not to push it too far.  That's my only advice that would be good, as I'm new to this too!

    I have a question as well for those seasoned racers out there... 
    I have two long runs left until my first half marathon.  I ran 12 last week.  Should I do two 13's or another 12 and a 13, before taking my training down the week prior?  The race is on June 22nd.  I am soley concerned with finishing and running the entire distance.  My 12 mile last week, I was able to run the whole time, but crashed after due to inadequate food/water.  Kind of scary for me.  I'm wondering if I should attempt the 12 again before moving my mileage up.  I also ran the 12 on a ridiculously hilly route.  It was really pretty and I'm actually one of those weird people who like the challenge of hills...especially the big ones.  What better a feeling than looking behind you and knowing you just ran up that beotch?!  LoL!  Perhaps the fact that I'm a climber/backpacker as well makes me privy to the challenge of a climb during my runs.  The race that I'm running is supposedly pretty flat, but I figure if I can run a more challenging course, the race should be a bit easier for me.
    KJ

    • CommentAuthorFree Membermalkster45
    • CommentTimeMay 30th 2008
     
    malkster45

    Thanks so much for the advice!  I have done my final training run but I am going to the race route tomorrow to check it out.  It's through a ravine so I can't drive it... but i will walk through it a bit just to get a feel for it.

    Thanks again.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberburgalurg
    • CommentTimeMay 30th 2008
     
    burgalurg
    That's a great idea!  Let us know how you do! I'm sure you'll do great!!!  : )
    KJ
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberyeags
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2008
     
    yeags

    Malkster-

     I hope the race went well for you.  Please keep us posted.

     

    KJ-

     I always like to run more than 13.1 at some point in my half trainings...  I guess it'[s a psychological thing for me.  If it were me, I'd run a 14 or 14.5 and a 13.1 if I had 2 long runs left.  I just feel better knowing that I have alraedy run the distance a couple of times.  I know you didn't ask this, but I use a medium length taper for a half (maybe 7 - 10 days), and eat lots of Pasta - but don't overeat (you're not exercising as much, so you could add a few pounds during your taper).

     Good luck in your race - keep us posted!!!

     jy

  1.  
    malkster45
    Hi!  The race went great!  The course was quite challenging...but I still managed to do it in 65 minutes...not that it matters.  My goal was to finish without stopping and that's exactly what I did.   I am going to sign up for another race in August.  It was a fantastic experience.  Thank you for your advice.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberjunkie_99
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2008
     
    junkie_99
    Congratulations on finishing your first 10k!
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberyeags
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2008
     
    yeags
    Way to go!!!  I'm glad you made your goal.  Good luck in your next race!!
    jy
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberB-Grrrrl
    • CommentTimeJun 3rd 2008
     
    B-Grrrrl

    Hi Burgalurg

    I'd personally leave 2 weeks for your taper - I know everyone's different and, not being a very experienced long-ish distance runner, a long run knocks me for 6 and it takes me about 3 days to recover so for me a 2 week taper works well.

    I read your other thread about crashing on your long runs - do you take a sports drink with you to sip on?  I find this helps me a lot, although sometimes the only thing that gets me past that 10-11 mile wall is gritted teeth and the thought of a big glass of wine waiting back at home for me!

    And of course Congrats to Malkster on your first 10k !

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberLaBaum
    • CommentTimeJun 11th 2008
     
    LaBaum
    I've read alot on this forum about "tapers."  What is a taper?  Is it just how it sounds, like tapering off the distance before a race?  I'm confused...
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberjunkie_99
    • CommentTimeJun 11th 2008
     
    junkie_99

    LaBaum...

    yes, taper off you distance before your race. I started lowering my distances about 2 weeks before my first (and only so far) marathon. I don't think I'd taper off for 2 weeks for say, a 5k.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberburgalurg
    • CommentTimeJun 12th 2008
     
    burgalurg

    Congrats, Malkster!!!  : )

    Okay, well, I'm in that "taper" section now.  My race is a week from Sunday!  I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (did I mention so?) nervous!  I didn't run a few days due to a ridiculous heat wave here in Jersey.  I ran yesterday (a fast 3 mile - heat was brutal).  I feel like I don't know what to do!!!!  This is where I could either help or hurt all the training that I have been doing! 

    I am going to try the sports drink thing (the lady at the running store suggested the same thing) and I also bought some Gu, though I haven't tried using it yet because I haven't done a long run since I bought it.  I feel like I should do another medium run, but is that a bad idea?  Maybe an eight or a nine?  Ten?  I don't know!!!  Everything on the internet is conflicting. 

    So today is Thursday and even though it is hot, I'm going to try and pull another 3 (I had so much to do this morning and it's already 11:30am and hot, but I won't have time tonight either!).   I figure that I will run consistently through Sunday, take Monday off.  Then consistently through Friday.  Take the Saturday before race day off.  How far to run on those days is beyond me!!  I'm scared, people. 

    This week is supposed to be hot and humid through at least Sunday, so I figure I maybe need to keep doing these 3's - a 5 perhaps depending on how I feel.  I feel unprepared...I really do.  I feel like I may have expected too much, too soon.  My last long run (a 12 mile) I threw up in front of a bunch of people that I didn't know well afterwards (why do I keep throwing up?  Lactate Threshhold?  Is my body not ready for this yet?  Can short, fast runs help train for long runs by raising your LT?  Is my LT not high enough to pull the 13?  I've only been running for 3 months! I am rambling via typing.  I feel like this is probably anxiety talking for me. 

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberjunkie_99
    • CommentTimeJun 18th 2008
     
    junkie_99
    ktboard...for a 5k, I don't think I'd worry about the meal the night before. A good breakfast and lunch on the day of the race should be sufficient.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberburgalurg
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2008
     
    burgalurg

    OMG! I did so much better than I even imagined that I could!!! I started getting sick with what I now think is just bad allergies on Thursday and got my *ahem* "lady thing" on Friday. It was supposed to thunder and lightning on Sunday-right in the middle of the race!! Things were not in my favor and I was SO nervous!!! My last 12 mile run (besides vomiting after) took me 2 1/2 hours. My official Champion Chip time for half marathon was (dun dun dun dahhhhhhh) 2:20:12!!! I couldn't believe it!

    My goal was to run the entire time, no matter what....no stopping/no walking. I DID IT! Even on some sick hills (thank goodness I like hills and trained on them!) I was running by tens of people! There was one particular sustained hill on mile 10 (yes...mile TEN) that was pretty darn steep and after running ten miles, it is not easy trucking up that, but I used some serious positive self-talk and I banged it out.

    I ended up running a 10.4 minutes per mile pace (which is great for me!). I used Gu at the start line, mile 5 and mile 9. I spanned it out perfectly and no cramps or vomiting! Yayyyyy! I walked it off with my cousin and Aunt for a little more than a mile afterward and that helped a lot! Today, my thighs and back are sore and my knees ache, but it's not that bad.

    I thought I was going to cry at the finish line. I got all choked up a few times during the race, just thinking, "I am seriously running a half marathon right now", but I made myself stop thinking it, because it was not helping my breathing! LoL! I thought I would lose it when I saw everyone cheering for me at the finish, and my son clapping and yelling, "Yayyyy, Mommmmmmyyyyyyy!" LoL! I held it in, though!

    It was an awesome experience! There were people everywhere on the course with signs, clapping and cheering us on. It was humid and a bit warm, but there were a bunch of water spouts to spray us down as we ran, which felt SOOO good, and there were even people out standing with hoses from thier houses, spraying us, too! : ) I'm so happy that I decided to run this race! It was one of the best experiences of my life. My next race is a five mile on July 12th.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberjocks98
    • CommentTimeJun 24th 2008
     
    jocks98

    Congratulations burgalurg!! That is awesome.  I am very new to running, and reading all of these posts gives me tremendous motivation.  I have only been running for about a month.  For the past 6 months, I've been on an exciting weight loss journey.  On January 1st, I weighed 334 pounds and today I weighed 227, for a total weight loss to date of 107 pounds.  I've lost it through cutting out fast food, watching what I eat, and weight training.  About a month ago, I added running to my workout routine.  Right now I run about 21 miles a week (3-3mile runs and 3-4mile runs).  I am not fast by any means (12:00 minute/pace) but I always get a great rush during and after the run.

    After all the background information, here is my question.  I am planning to run my first 5k run on September 2.  I know that my time won't be competitive so my goal is to do my best.  From what I understand the race is also offering a 10k race.  Do any of you think it is too ambitious for me to  shoot for the 10K and skip the 5K?  I figure that I have about 10 weeks to train for the race. Or should I spend the time working on improving my pace rather than increasing distance?

    Thanks in advance for any advice that any of you can give.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberjunkie_99
    • CommentTimeJun 24th 2008
     
    junkie_99

    Jocks,

    You can usually safely add 10% to your weekly milage each week, anymore than that you can injure yourself. I found that by adding distance I could increase my pace on my shorter runs. So even if you go with the 5k, you can knock some time off the race by adding distance to your training. You could replace a 3 mile run with a five mile run this week and see how you feel, or replace a 4 mile run with a five mile run...just adding a mile to your weekly total. I wouldn't say that the 10k is out of reach for you in 10 weeks. In fact, sounds like a reasonable goal.  

  2.  
    RunAnnieRun
    burgalurg:

    OMG! I did so much better than I even imagined that I could!!! I started getting sick with what I now think is just bad allergies on Thursday and got my *ahem* "lady thing" on Friday. It was supposed to thunder and lightning on Sunday-right in the middle of the race!! Things were not in my favor and I was SO nervous!!! My last 12 mile run (besides vomiting after) took me 2 1/2 hours. My official Champion Chip time for half marathon was (dun dun dun dahhhhhhh) 2:20:12!!! I couldn't believe it!

    My goal was to run the entire time, no matter what....no stopping/no walking. I DID IT! Even on some sick hills (thank goodness I like hills and trained on them!) I was running by tens of people! There was one particular sustained hill on mile 10 (yes...mile TEN) that was pretty darn steep and after running ten miles, it is not easy trucking up that, but I used some serious positive self-talk and I banged it out.

    I ended up running a 10.4 minutes per mile pace (which is great for me!). I used Gu at the start line, mile 5 and mile 9. I spanned it out perfectly and no cramps or vomiting! Yayyyyy! I walked it off with my cousin and Aunt for a little more than a mile afterward and that helped a lot! Today, my thighs and back are sore and my knees ache, but it's not that bad.

    I thought I was going to cry at the finish line. I got all choked up a few times during the race, just thinking, "I am seriously running a half marathon right now", but I made myself stop thinking it, because it was not helping my breathing! LoL! I thought I would lose it when I saw everyone cheering for me at the finish, and my son clapping and yelling, "Yayyyy, Mommmmmmyyyyyyy!" LoL! I held it in, though!

    It was an awesome experience! There were people everywhere on the course with signs, clapping and cheering us on. It was humid and a bit warm, but there were a bunch of water spouts to spray us down as we ran, which felt SOOO good, and there were even people out standing with hoses from thier houses, spraying us, too! : ) I'm so happy that I decided to run this race! It was one of the best experiences of my life. My next race is a five mile on July 12th.

    ohhh congrats!!! i felt JUST like you did after my first 1/2 - although i totally broke down and cried :).  congrats, congrats, congrats!!! you did awesome; and you should feel so proud of yourself for all of your hard work & effort!!!!

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberburgalurg
    • CommentTimeJun 28th 2008
     
    burgalurg

    Thanks, guys!  : )

    Jocks...YAYYYYYYYY!!!!  You are amazing!  : )  I think that if you leave yourself enough time, you can go for the 10K.  The good thing about doing a 5K first is that it gives you the experience of the race without feeling too nervous about covering the distance.  So, you can see what the "racing atmosphere" is like before you do a longer race.  I did a 5K first, then jumped right into the Half Marathon!  LoL!  I think that if I hadn't done the 5K, though, I would have been much more nervous (and believe me...I was nervous ENOUGH!!) for the half, because I wouldn't have known what to expect when I got there.  Also, running with other runners is an awesome experience, but it is much different than running by yourself all the time, so it's good to do a shorter race first to see how that works out for you!  My 5K, I didn't push myself hard enough, because I was nervous about having to stop or how I would "look" in front of the other seasoned runners.  After the race, I realized that was the stupidest thing ever and I ran the half without even thinking about what anyone else thought about me.  I actually ran it only 40 seconds longer per mile than I did my 5K just 2 1/2 months earlier!! 

    So, to make short advice long...I would say train for the 10K, but do the 5K first (during the training if you want), just to get a feel for the "racing atmosphere".  Good Luck!   Keep us posted on how you are doing!  You are doing a great thing for your body and your quality of life!  : )