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easy 5 again today.  I only got 3 hours sleep..but still felt great running....I ran the same pace as monday..which is fine...i still felt really good  :)

i think im getting somewhat of a runner's knee already though.....so...time to start icing!

Steve....good look....another Garrett race.....you must be thrilled..;)

Ex kiwi 615 for me. Hope to be there from 10.30 -11.00. 11.15 if it heads pear shaped. Dont know if Ican hang around too long, as I have to shoot off to play cricket, but if I see you I will have a chat for sure. White singlet (at this stage) and black skins

I went over to the track to do some aerobic threshold work. Kinda lame to do mile repeats at aerobic threshold pace, but I don't want to do anything too hard while still recovering from the half.

4x1600 (5:32, 5:26, 5:36, 5:36) and 1x3200 (11:20) all with 1:00 rest in between

Nothing too hard, I just went over there in my trainers and ran what felt moderately hard (but not quite tempo pace). I ran in my trainers instead of flats, which made things a bit slower. Also, I REALLY didn't want to go out and run...50 degrees (I hate cold), 15-20 mph wind and rain, ugh. 

chiggy - showin' off to the girls. Ya sound like a high schooler!   Good onya.  My 15yr old daughter won't let me leave the house wearing running tights unless I've got shorts over the top!  lol.

fricster; gfinkelde - I'll be there, camera in hand. Looking forward to saying g'day!

Got 8km in yesterday, easy pace. my easy run pace is edging ever so slowly towards 5:00 per km.  Currently around 5:10 - 5:15.  Today I did 22mins w/up and 22 mins w/dn with 2 lots of 12 mins tempo with 3 mins recovery.  Covered 14.5km and felt really good.  Looking forward to my 12km Time Trial on Sat for an educated guess at my half time.

9+ miles last night at a pretty decent 8:15 pace. A nice easy 6 or 7 miles today.

I'd like to jump in.  Ran the Philly Distance Run week before last - my first half after knee surgery earlier this year.  I need to stay motivated, but I'm not sure what my next race will be.  Did 3.5 hill work on the TM last night and joined the 100 miles/month challenge today. 

2x 3.08mile laps today in 41:24 (6:43 pace). Didn't get out for a long run on wednesday as the weather here is totally sucky at the moment. Planned to do more miles tonight but the rain was so depressin I just decided enough was enough after the 2nd lap. Fingers crossed that tomorrow brings no rain...

kdogg i gotta agree with gily32

  ..50 is prime temp..,and where you are livin now thats the warmest your gonna see for quite a long time..lol.any thoughts about givin "snow shoe" racing a try this winter???

sweet 6.5 tonite,  8:10 pace, trying to keep everything this week between 8:00 and 8:30 pace  . felt great , i was able to keep a harness on the legs...hope race comes soon,. they are screeming to go..

10 days left..i am gonna keep the mileage to 6-12 milers..going for 8 fri, 6 sat, 12 sun, rest mon, 8 tues, 8 wed, thu rest , fri rest, sat 3,. ........ then 26.3 sun.

{the extra .10 mile on race day is for me to get out of sight before i keel over and fall on my face,.that probably would NOT impress the girls}

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you guys are nuts. 50 degrees is cold!! Sure its great for running fast, and if I wanted to race fast I would want it to be 40 degrees or so, but not for daily training, I would rather not have to wear a long sleeve shirt. Not to mention wind and rain - that makes for a not fun run. 

I like to run shirtless, so anything 75+ is great. Maybe once you start getting over 95 then I'm not too happy, but I haven't seen a lot of 95 degree weather at the times I train.

Man pappypage, snow shoe running? I don't even want to think about that. I am gonna probably have to make a new best friend over the winter - the treadmill, ugh. Imagine putting in 100-110 miles a week on a treadmill (I'm gonna bump my mileage back up during the winter when I'm just doing easy miles), thats gonna suck, but oh well.  But I dunno, they say it doesn't get really icy up here, there is just a lot of snow, so we'll see how it turns out.

I ran an easy 15 miles today, but it wasn't easy at all, haha. I felt terrible!!!! I haven't felt that bad on an easy run for a long time, I was almost gonna stop and walk on the last couple miles, but I decided that'd probably be a bad idea.  I'll probably take another easy run tomorrow and then hop on the track Saturday (even though I hate to wake up early and will have to deal with crazy traffic for the game)

SimmoT - I always get really nervous when I'm standing at the starting line waiting for the gun to go. It doesn't matter if it's a 5k, 10k, half marathon or a marathon. Self-doubt starts to creep in and I start to let stupid things into my head like;

Have I put in enough miles/hours training to do myself justice?

Have I ate too soon before the start. Have I drank too much water? Oh God, what if I get bloated?

Should I really be standing this close to a dude wearing pink running skins?

I guess it's the same for everybody. I'm new to the whole experience so it's still really exciting as well as nerve-racking. Once I get started though and find my pace, I'm grand.

KDogg - 100+ miles a week on a treadmill...There's no way I could hack that at all (physically or mentally). You must be immune to boredom

Can't believe the sun is actually out today - looking forward to a run this evening after work.

KDogg - You love running in temps between 75 and 95 degrees, and you call us nuts???  I hate it at 75 degrees.  I certainly can't imagine 95.  You think 50 degrees is too cold, and we are nuts?  You will log 100+ mile weeks on a treadmill this winter...and we're the nutty ones?  I've been waiting all summer for this cool weather and you decry it?  Blasphemy!!!  Hehehehehehehe  Put a shirt on and enjoy the Fall weather!!  Be a man!!  Heheheheheheheheh  By the way, why were your 15 miles so bad today?  For you to want to stop, it had to be awful.

8 Mile Tempo Run for me today.  15 mile easy long run tomorrow.

"Running is a big question mark that's there each and every day. It asks you, 'Are you going to be a wimp or are you going to be strong today?'" Peter Maher

Happy Running, all!!

 

Speedwork session last night, which included a few 400m repeats and a total of four miles.  On a few of the repeats, I got into that wonderful rhythm where the legs go on auto-pilot, and the only thing you have to do is remember to breath and hold on for the ride.  Overall a good quick workout.

This Sunday is the Army Ten Miler - should be just an easy ten mile run with 26,000 other friends!  I don't have a definite time goal, but anything under 90 minutes and injury-free would be just fine with me. 

LexB - Congratulations on your longest run so far!!  You even ran through a few quitting points, I see.  I've noticed something strange.  Often when feeling bad through a stretch of a few miles, literally picking up the pace a little feels better for me than the slower pace.  Then after a little while, I'll settle back down, feeling much better.  I don't understand it, but I've also read about this in Jack Daniel's book on running.

Again, great run!  Vancouver should be ideal conditions for running this time of year.

Run Happy!!!

Thanks guys

Gilly - Yep, I found it easier to pick up the pace a bit through the 'dark' patches, going slower just made everything hurt more, I also found it helped to sing out loud with my music - probably to the disapproval of anyone within ear-shot : )

Graeme - I used a strawberry and banana powerbar gell and it was disgusting! I bought two of them a week ago - that was my second and last. Let me know what the honey stinger is like - that sounds nice. I'm steering clear of fruit flavours.

Hey guys!! Been a while (ok, a really, really long while)!! I'm pretty much done all my training for the Chicago Marathon. Man, has it been a trial. This summer was spectacularly tough to run in. I'm with the crowd, here, KDogg, I ran 8 miles tonight, and it was probably low 50's- high 40's, and I just loved it. Ran faster than I have in a really long time, despite not being well-hydrated.

 Only about 9 days to go till the big day!! As I recall, there are a bunch doing the Melbourne Marathon on the 12th as well. Good luck to all. The only thing I really have to do before the race is pack and talk to my colleague's widow (for those that don't know, I worked with the police officer that passed away while running last year's Chicago Marathon). I'm going to ask her for the honor of carrying his badge while I run, in memory of his effort last year. Wish me luck, everyone.

dan!! - good to hear from you again.  Very pleased to hear the training has been going well.

Gels - My local health shop only carries one gel; it happens to be the Endura citrus flavour and I used it a couple of weeks ago on a 2.5 hr run.  Very easy to take, nice flavour.  I've got a 2hr 40 run planned for next weekend and will try it again then and let you know how I found it.

For all those in the final week of a taper before the BIG one next Sunday; if your legs are screaming at you to do some work, that's a really good sign!  Don't blow it now!  Harro8 - if you're still there and looking for some moral support next Sunday, let me know your race number and I'll look out for ya with a cheer!

I'm 4 weeks out from my half and feeling good.  I finally got into a groove on my easy runs this week and found a rhythym that allowed me to run comfortably at my 70% heart rate while still edging closer to that magical (for me) 5:00 min per km pace.  This morning was the Tan Time Trial day.  My training plan called for a 10 - 15km race this weekend so I tacked an extra 4km lap onto the 8km official run.  I think I have finally found my racing legs as I got into a groove again which felt like I used to in the last couple of seasons of running with my club back in New Zealand before I migrated to Oz back in late '99.  I timed my 8km 2s faster than last month and held that pace for another 4km to hit 12km in a touch over 53 minutes.  That's 4:25 per km.  It's still not quite the 4:15 I need to crack 90 minutes for the half but it's getting there.

Run On!

ps: Happy Birthday KDogg!

Ran the Grete Gallop half marathon this morning.  I completed in 2hrs and 20 mins.  Much, much better than most of the half marathons I had ran during the year.  The cool temperature did contribute to me running stronger and faster.  I cut 10 mins off my previous half marathon times. 

Good look Chiggy and Bonzi with your races.

thanks kiwi for the bday wishes :)

Gilly - you are taking my comment to the extreme. I said once you start getting over 95 degrees, then I might not like it that much. I would read that in such a way as to 95 is the maximum tolerable temperature. Furthermore, seeing as I had said I don't see a lot of 95 degree temps at the times I run says I do run at a time when its not gonna be 95. 

That said, I will stress again that if I want to run fast I want it to be 40-50 degrees or maybe even a little cooler. Your physiological argument backs up my reasoning for that seeing as your body uses less energy for thermoregulation in cool temps and thus you are able to use that energy in ways to benefit your running.  However, I don't want to run fast every day, I just want to run fast when it matters - races. 

For me, 50 degrees is cold, I have no insulation, my body fat is probably 3%, maybe a little higher. So getting motivated to go run in 50 degree weather and 20 degree weather is almost the same for me - it sucks either way.I realize you can wear layers and all of that great stuff Runners World informs runners to do, but none of that changes the fact that when step out the door its still cold and you are still going to feel cold...if you aren't, then you are a overdressed which is a problem in itself. 

Also, some runners handle heat a little better than others.  I run well in the heat. The first time I ever ran a half marathon, I was VERY undertrained (I had had six weeks of training - I had taken six months completely off of running prior to that) and it was 95-100 degrees. Everyone run slow (4-6 minutes slower than they did the year prior). However, despite being undertrained I beat a ton of runners I shouldn't have because they suffered way more than me due to the heat. My 5k PR - I ran on a hot day. This summer, in 90 degree heat and 95% humidity I ran a 15:40 5k by myself. My point being, I don't think the heat affects me as much as it does others and I like it that way because its human nature to have an affinity for things you do well in. 

For distance runners the number 1 enemy is motivation. For me, its hard to get motivated to run in the cold, I just don't like it. So to answer your question, yes I would prefer it to be warmer than 50 degrees every day except for race days. For me, probably 75-80 degrees would be excellent.

rpetreccajr - you're exactly right lol. I wanted to move south, but aside from Texas and Vanderbilt there aren't really any national law schools in the south. Texas was unwilling to give me a free application (whereas EVERYONE else did), so I didn't bother applying to Texas. Vandy's admission statistics this year were phenomenal, so guys like me got the shaft despite having solid admissions numbers. 

Wow - what a long lead up. Anyway, I ran a track workout this morning. I felt terrible, I couldn't breathe and I don't know why. I was gonna do 2400s (for my 24th bday), but I couldn't maintain my pace for half that distance, so I had to back off and do some shorter stuff. I did 2x(1200, 1000, 800) with 2:00 rest in between reps and then 4x400 starting a 400 every 2:00. I tried to keep everything around 5:00 pace, my 8k total time was 24:58, so not too far off of what I want my actual 8k race time to be...I'll take that on an off day :) I gotta run another 7 miles this evening to give me 24 for the day

I'm interested to see how chiggy describes his race. 

just to clarify, 15:40 isn't my PR, it was just an example of a decent effort in hot weather. I would certainly run my fastest in cooler weather...my point is just that I lack motivation when its cooler and running is useless when you don't do it.

I wish I could move to Florida, if UF's law school application wasn't such a hassle to fill out and they were more generous with scholarships for out of state people they seriously would have been one of my top choices. thanks for the bday wishes :)

7 more easy miles - wow I'm tired...and I gotta wake up for a long run tomorrow morning, suck

happy b-day kdogg,.

 congrats to all those who raced again,.so many people on here are hittin some great times and a lot of new distance and time pr's...

taper madness is in full swing now and the nervous anxiety is growing quickly,.i layed down my last double didgit run today..12 miles at easy 9;10 pace,..3 more runs and it will be "show time" ..can't wait ..

easy 3 mile today.  Have my last tri meet of the season tomorrow.  Should be fun because I dont think its a full 5k, im pretty sure its around 2.7miles.

Ran the Army Ten Miler yesterday with 18,556 other finishers!  Weather was a perfect 58 degrees at the start and didn't get too much hotter by the finish.  The Army always does a great job with the race, and all of the volunteers and the water stations were perfect.

My goal was to finish anywhere under 1:30, so I was pretty pleased with my final time of 1:25:19, which comes out to an 8:32 per mile pace.  I actually ran the last 3.5 miles at about 8 minute pace.  The best part of the run was that it was completely comfortable as I get ready for the marathon in three weeks.  I realize that the marathon is 2.5 times what I did yesterday, but my goal of a four hour marathon seems within reach.

ericjacquie - congrats on a fine race.  Isn't it nice to improve and get better?

dan - best of luck to you on Sunday.  I'll be rooting for you and your fallen colleague.

around 19 miles last night in about 3 hours...final long run until the marathon...under 3 weeks away. I wasn't happy with the run, but I'm hoping the number of pretty serious hills I get to run on will make up for my unhappiness...LOL. Taper time...I'm not sure what I'm going to do with myself the final week with very little running to do.

 Bonzi, congrats on your Army 10miler. I tried to sign up, but got to the registration too late....hopefully next year I'll be there.

Last dual meet of the season went pretty well today.  Weird course though       (3.04 miles)  Went out to fast, as usual (5:32) and couldnt maintain the pace.  Ended up running a 17:53 which is around 5:52 pace.  I wish this was a full 5k though i would have probably p.r'ed.  If i kept that pace for the full 5k it would have been around and 18:16 5k.  Im so angry! Well anyways, have an invitational at darlington park (the place with a total of 400m of running on sand, ew) but overall its pretty flat so it should be a good race, hoping for a p.r.

Hi All, Getting a bit worried about the temp on Sunday, a bit hotter than I am used to  -so like gfinkelde I am starting to hydrate now! Also eating too much - must watch that - too much time on my hands. Ran a very short 6kms tonight. easy ...